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|header-title='#分部访谈'
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很高兴见到你,Comrade Xander。你愿意介绍一下你在乌克兰分部的职责吗?
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Nice to meet you, Comrade Xander. Would you like to describe your duty in the Ukrainian Branch?
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我是乌克兰分部的一名管理员,同时也在SCP-INT担任分部代表。作为工作人员,我会对原创文档和翻译进行校对和批评,并且通过投票将它们从沙盒转移到分部网站中。除此之外,我还是一位活跃的作者和翻译者。
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I am one of the administrators of the Ukrainian branch, additionally serving as the Branch's representative to the SCP-INT. In my staff capacity, I provide proofreading and critique both to national articles and to translations, later voting for them to be transferred from the sandbox to the main site. On top of that, I am an active author and translator myself.
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可以推荐一篇最能代表您的写作风格的作品吗?
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Would you like to recommend one of your works that can best represent your literary style?
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应该是SCP-041-UA,这是首篇介绍P.O.R.A.的文章。
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That would be SCP-041-UA, where P.O.R.A. is first introduced.
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您可以告诉我们SCP乌克兰分部是如何建立的吗?您是如何了解SCP,以及在之后成为一名活跃的贡献者的?
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Well could you tell us how was the Ukrainian SCP community established? And how did you learn about SCP and become an active contributor?
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在2016年,[[*user Murzei Chaos]]建立了乌克兰分部。他不满于俄罗斯分部的条条框框,想去寻求一个有更多艺术自由的平台,为此他创建了乌克兰分部。实际上社区并不是很在意他的个人意见,但在此还是感谢他为乌克兰语作品提供了空间。
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It was established in 2016 by [[*user murzei_chaos]]. Not satisfied with the rigidity of the Russian branch, he looked for a platform that could allow for more artistic freedom; thus, he found such in the creation of the Ukrainian branch. The community does not really care about his sentiment but is, nevertheless, grateful for providing a space for works in Ukrainian.
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我在2012年初第一次接触SCP,然后于2013年注册了俄罗斯分部账号,因为当时我们还没有自己的分部。但由于一些个人原因,我在2014年淡出了网站。2020年末我回归了,然后发现这些SCP项目……和我记忆中的有些许不同。我从事写作的主要动机是为了发展SCP-UA,将网站经营成一个对先前分散在不同分部的乌克兰语使用者(通常是主站和俄文站)更友好的地方。直到现在,我已经创作了十五篇作品(十三篇SCP文档和两篇故事),进行了大规模的行政改革以支持乌克兰的作者,并且翻译了许多作品,使我们能以一些其它作品为人所知——而不再是那该死的铁疙瘩[[footnote]]此处指SCP-069-UA[[/footnote]]。我想再重申一次,SCP-069-UA已经不能代表我们目前的创作风格了。
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I learnt about SCP in the beginning of 2012 and registered in the Russian branch, for the lack of our own, in 2013. But, due to personal reasons, I had to drop out of active participation in 2014. I returned only in the end of 2020, to find the SCP project… somewhat different from how I remembered it. My main motivation to take up writing was to develop the SCP UA, so there would be a welcoming space for UA-speakers previously dispersed among different branches, mainly -EN and -RU. Since then, I’ve already created 15 articles (13 SCPs and 2 tales), introduced a large-scale administrative reform to support Ukrainian authors, and translated numerous works so that we could be known for something than that God-damned Iron. I would like to reiterate that SCP-069-UA is no longer representative of our current creative trends.
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让我们来聊聊创作。我注意到乌克兰分部的沙盒站点在结构上与主站和中分的不同,而且非常有条理。这是否意味着乌克兰分部对新文章和翻译有更严格的质量控制?
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Let's talk about creation. I've noticed that the Ukrainian sandbox site is different from EN's and CN's in structure and is quite organized. Does that mean the Ukrainian branch has stricter quality control over new articles and translations?
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确实是这样的。每篇文章,不管是原创作品还是翻译,都至少要经过两次审核。翻译作品可以被任何人审核和校对,而原创作品则由分部的工作人员审核。如果作品直接地,或者经工作人员修改之后获得认可,将会在一定的期限内开始对其进行投票。作者和工作人员都可以进行投票,作品将会根据结果被发布或者删除。
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Indeed. Each article — be it original or translation — must go through at least two reviews. Translations can be reviewed and proofread by anyone; original works, on the other hand, are reviewed by the branch staff. If the material is accepted prima facie, or after amendments by the staff, it is then put to a vote with a certain deadline. Both authors and staff can vote and, based on the results, materials get published or discarded.
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正如我们看到的,为维基工作需要大量的时间和精力。你们有没有热衷于社区事务的普通贡献者呢?
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As you can see, working for the wiki takes a lot of time and efforts. Do you have any ordinary contributors who are enthusiastic about community affairs
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当然,我们的贡献者们都积极地参与审核和校对活动。由于Wikidot并不是进行多边讨论的最佳平台,我们使用Telegram来实现这一目的。此外,我们也有一些同好通过艺术和视频博客来支持我们的社区。
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Yes, our contributors actively participate in proofreading and reviewing activities. As Wikidot is not the best platform for multilateral discussions, we use Telegram for this purpose. Moreover, several of our participants support the community through art and videoblogging.
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既然你已经提到了[[[SCP-069-UA]]],也就是你们分部评分最高的作品,可以分享一下你对这篇早期作品的评论吗?
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Since you mentioned SCP-069-UA, the highest rated SCP-UA in your branch, would you like to share your comment on this early article?
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彻头彻尾的欢乐基金会产物。要不是它的评分真的是高得离谱,成为工作人员之后我会马上给它归档。
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LolFoundation, through and thorough. If not for its absurdly high rating, I would have archived it as soon as I became a staff member.
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[[[SCP-705-UA-J]]]是唯一被翻译到中分的SCP-UA-J项目。你想为受这种异常现象影响的人提供什么建议?
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SCP-705-UA-J is the only translated SCP-UA-J in the Chinese branch. What suggestions do you want to provide for those affected by this anomaly?
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呃,如果你真的受到了SCP-705-UA-J的影响,那你可真能捡到不少宝贝。没什么比一场欧洲的战争更适合互联网巨魔们,包括受异常影响的那些。只要确保用可靠的信息来源证实你的观点——你或许能在这个过程中学到一些东西。
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Well, if you indeed got affected recently by SCP-705-UA-J than you've hit the gold mine. There is no better time for Internet-trolls, including the anomalous ones, than a war in Europe. Just be sure to substantiate your points with reliable sources — you may even learn something in the process.
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那么是时候聊聊你们的GoI了。一位翻译告诉我他想知道”gabelfork”的词源,你可以回答一下这个问题吗?
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Well it's time for your GoIs. A translator told me he wanted to know the etymology of "gabelfork". Could you answer this question?
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"gabelfork"等级是Murzei_Chao创造的。我已经把这个疑问交给他了,请你暂时先继续其他问题。
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"gabelfork" class is murzei_chaos' creation. I've relegated the query to him — please, proceed with other questions for now.
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Annihilism,中文又称 "寂宁派",是乌克兰唯一在中文分部有相关翻译的GoI。这个GoI的初始灵感是什么,以及你们的社区如何看待它的哲学?
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Annihilism, also known as "Silent Serene Faction" (寂宁派) in Chinese, is the only Ukrainian GoI with relevant translations in the Chinese branch. What is the original inspiration of this GoI, and how do your community consider its philosophy?
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Annihilism是一个很有趣的例子。信仰Annihilism的人开始时是非常普通的,如果不至于太过放肆,这些恶棍只会惩罚在世界上发生的那些他们认知中的错误行为。如果你还记得哥伦拜恩校园枪击事件[[footnote]]哥伦拜恩校园枪击事件是1999年4月20日于美国科罗拉多州哥伦拜恩高中发生的校园枪击事件[[/footnote]],埃里克·哈里斯和迪伦·克莱伯德[[footnote]]哥伦拜恩校园枪击事件的两名凶手[[/footnote]]将是这种邪教的主要拥趸。由于这一设定诞生于我们分部的早期,它的概念是极其简单的。
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Annihilism is an interesting case. Annihilists started as generic, if not especially unscrupulous, villains with no motivation beyond punishing the world for its perceived wrongdoings against them. If you remember the Columbine shootings, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold would have been prime candidates for this cult. As these were the early days of our branch, the concept itself was extremely simplistic.
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最近,关于Annihilism的设定已经进化了——准确来讲是从SCP-060-UA开始的。目前的作者将Annihilism视为一种末世论哲学,旨在逆转创世过程——那时原始的神祗牺牲自己来创造我们的宇宙。人们当中产生的Annihilism概念被视为某种渴望再度完整的破碎神性的潜意识产物。被这种思想污染的人会在天空中看到一个正常人看不见的新天体—Astra Lucerna[[footnote]]原文为拉丁语,Astra意为星,Lucerna意为灯。暂时无确认译名,暂音译为阿斯特拉-卢瑟纳[[/footnote]]。这是他们在徽记上描绘的符号,也是他们识别并联合同党的方式。
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Recently, the creative approach to telling the stories of Annihilism has evolved — starting with SCP-060-UA, to be precise. Current authors treat Annihilism as an eschatological philosophy aimed at reversing the Act of Creation — when the Primordial Deity sacrificed itself to create our universe. The very notion of Annihilism among men is treated as a product of the broken deity's subconsciousness, longing to be whole again. Those contaminated with these thoughts start seeing a new celestial body in the sky, invisible to normal humans — Astra Lucerna. This is the symbol that is depicted on their insignia, and that's how they recognise each other and unite.
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如果你们喜欢这个GoI,或许有兴趣读一读[http://scp-int.wikidot.com/external-relations-orientation-annihilism Annhilism的最新作品]。这篇作品罕见地从SCP对外关系部的角度进行叙述。
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You may be interested in translating [http://scp-int.wikidot.com/external-relations-orientation-annihilism the latest publication about Annhilism] if your branch likes this GoI that much. It is a lecture done from the rare perspective of the SCP External Relations Department.
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对于可能对这些乌克兰分部GoI(如DATSSU、P.O.R.A.或Robotic Republic)感兴趣的中分写手,您会提出什么样的建议?
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What advice will you provide for CN writers that may be interested in one of these GoIs, like DATSSU, P.O.R.A. or Robotic Republic?
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据我所知只有很小一部分的相关内容被翻译成了中文。关于P.O.R.A.和机械共和国的更多信息,可以在我们的INT中心找到[http://scp-int.wikidot.com/ua-hub 英文版]。
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As far as I understand, only a slight minority of the relevant materials has been translated to CN, if translated at all. Much more info on P.O.R.A. and Robotic Republic can be found in English, in our [http://scp-int.wikidot.com/ua-hub INT hub].
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咨询原作者常常是个不错的主意。他们既深入了解他们自己的的GoI,又了解他们的国家背景,这对DATSSU和P.O.R.A这样的设定而言尤其重要。以下是你可以联系的原作者:
光明之主,机器人共和国,DAT SSU -- [[user murzei_chaos]].
Annihilism(寂宁派) -- [[user Dasgot]]
P.O.R.A. -- [[user Comrade Xander]]
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It is always a good idea to consult with creators — they have both in-depth understanding of their GoIs and understanding of their national context, which is especially relelvant for DATSSU and P.O.R.A. Here is the list of who you should contact for consultations:
The Bright Lord, Robotic Republic, DAT SSU -- [[user murzei_chaos]].
Annihilism -- [[user Dasgot]]
P.O.R.A. -- [[user Comrade Xander]]
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让我们回到写作上来。乌分部的作者会不会从一些严肃的文学作品中汲取营养呢,比如一些文学经典?
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Well let's go back to writing. Have you people ever absorbed nutrients from serious literature, like Ukrainian classics?
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当然了。我们有很多基于民间故事创作的项目,尤其是P.O.R.A.,使用了很多来自乌克兰文学的元素。
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Of course. We have a lot of folklore based object and P.O.R.A. in particular uses a lot of elements from Ukrainian literature.
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目前中国分部正在举行一个比赛,要求参赛队伍写一篇或多篇有关电子游戏的crossover。除了SCP基金会之外,乌分部成员会不会讨论一些同人项目?这对你们的社区文化有何影响?
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The Chinese Branch is holding a contest where each team is required to write one or more crossover tales about a game. So what fandoms are your members involved in besides the SCP Foundation, and how much influence do they have on your community's culture?
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我们很少讨论这些方面的内容,尤其是近期。但我确信最常被讨论的是JOJO的奇妙冒险。
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We rarely discuss these things, especially lately. But I disntinctly remember JoJo to be the most prevalent.
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让我们把话题转向网站外社群吧。在社交媒体上,乌分部的受欢迎程度如何?可以推荐一些有关乌分部的其它社群吗?
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Let's focus on the external community. How is the branch's popularity on social media? Could you recommend any external contributors of your branch?
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我们在社交媒体上没有官方账号。社区活动一般都是通过SCP乌克兰分部的Telegram进行的。
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We do not have official presence in social media. Community engagement is mostly done through the official Telegram channel of the SCP Ukraine.
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我们其中一个成员有乌克兰分部专门的[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh9LHFoodWlGjhZI_E0huQA/videos Youtube频道]和[https://www.tiktok.com/@scp_ua Tiktok账号]。以及我们最敬业的一位艺术家的[https://twitter.com/Tiny_Archon?s=09 Twitter账户]。
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One of our members has a dedicated YouTube channel and TikTok for the SCP UA content, And here is the Twitter-account of one of our most dedicated artists.
[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh9LHFoodWlGjhZI_E0huQA/videos Youtube]
[https://www.tiktok.com/@scp_ua Tiktok]
[https://twitter.com/Tiny_Archon?s=09 Twitter]
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访谈已经接近尾声了。由于乌分部的许多活动都已停止,当一切恢复和平时,你想最先重启哪项活动呢?
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Well it's coming to the end. Since many branch operations have been stopped, which operation do you want to restart first when everything goes back to peace?
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在和平到来后的第一件事情将会是——召集幸存的成员进行会议。
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First thing we are going to do after the peace is reached — convene with surviving memebers.
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嗯,谢谢你接受我们的采访。愿你和你的朋友们平安。
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Well thank you for accepting our interview. Best wishes to you and your friends.
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